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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>森小在原本想保護女藝人的句子上用錯了一個詞,令人產生錯覺,是一個工作上的錯誤,是應該改進的.如今被某惡意的傳媒利用,作大,再被某團體的&quot;衛道士&quot;無限發揮,完全失去了&quot;帮助商台把工作做得更好&quot;的重要意義.在這個問題上,廣管局
可能亦分不清輕重了,唯有隨風而去,以投訴信的數量去解決問題,確是下策!其實
162,187,192,根本不代表所有香港人,只是代表一部份人云亦云,不了解&quot;架勢堂&quot;這個輕鬆,搞笑,減壓的節目的人.假如廣管局高層了解一下網上二萬多青年朋
友就知道,森小才是真正受歡迎的節目主持人.至於某傳媒的公信力,已經令人大
跌眼鏡了.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>森小在原本想保護女藝人的句子上用錯了一個詞,令人產生錯覺,是一個工作上的錯誤,是應該改進的.如今被某惡意的傳媒利用,作大,再被某團體的"衛道士"無限發揮,完全失去了"帮助商台把工作做得更好"的重要意義.在這個問題上,廣管局<br />
可能亦分不清輕重了,唯有隨風而去,以投訴信的數量去解決問題,確是下策!其實<br />
162,187,192,根本不代表所有香港人,只是代表一部份人云亦云,不了解"架勢堂"這個輕鬆,搞笑,減壓的節目的人.假如廣管局高層了解一下網上二萬多青年朋<br />
友就知道,森小才是真正受歡迎的節目主持人.至於某傳媒的公信力,已經令人大<br />
跌眼鏡了.</p>
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		<title>By: The Odyssey Of Lonely Planet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 「非禮選舉」後的結果與反思</title>
		<link>http://jacky.seezone.net/2006/06/08/1657/comment-page-1/#comment-2297</link>
		<dc:creator>The Odyssey Of Lonely Planet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 「非禮選舉」後的結果與反思</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 相關文章: 不經大腦的「十大我最想非禮女藝人選舉」  文章追加: ＜公開想非禮黨＞vs＜強姦快閃黨＞ -草飛之階 我最想非禮的香港女藝人選舉有什麼問題? -達Ming 非禮選舉冇問題的更大問題 -亞占 傳媒炒作？ -網絡暴民Jacky    Posted at 9:45 am in: 時事評論 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 相關文章: 不經大腦的「十大我最想非禮女藝人選舉」  文章追加: ＜公開想非禮黨＞vs＜強姦快閃黨＞ -草飛之階 我最想非禮的香港女藝人選舉有什麼問題? -達Ming 非禮選舉冇問題的更大問題 -亞占 傳媒炒作？ -網絡暴民Jacky    Posted at 9:45 am in: 時事評論 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jacky</title>
		<link>http://jacky.seezone.net/2006/06/08/1657/comment-page-1/#comment-2291</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snowdrop: 沒有所謂，想說就說吧~~ 你寫英文會比較長，我明白~ ^_^

有時候，很難分清楚傳媒與公眾，很多時報紙可以將一件小事炒到天般大。例如報紙寫「巴士阿叔全城效應」，做一些簡單民調，街上訪問幾十個人意見就算。但現實可能只有上網比較多的年青一輩比較熱烈，一般人可能聽都沒聽過，然後看到報紙說「全城效應」才知道此事。由「報導全城效應」變成「報導引至全城效應」。這就是傳媒炒作的威力。

「正常」輿論聲中，其實也沒有過激要商台停節目，但商台一招棄車保車，封人把口，其實有點聲東擊西，沒有正視問題。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snowdrop: 沒有所謂，想說就說吧~~ 你寫英文會比較長，我明白~ ^_^</p>
<p>有時候，很難分清楚傳媒與公眾，很多時報紙可以將一件小事炒到天般大。例如報紙寫「巴士阿叔全城效應」，做一些簡單民調，街上訪問幾十個人意見就算。但現實可能只有上網比較多的年青一輩比較熱烈，一般人可能聽都沒聽過，然後看到報紙說「全城效應」才知道此事。由「報導全城效應」變成「報導引至全城效應」。這就是傳媒炒作的威力。</p>
<p>「正常」輿論聲中，其實也沒有過激要商台停節目，但商台一招棄車保車，封人把口，其實有點聲東擊西，沒有正視問題。</p>
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		<title>By: Nana</title>
		<link>http://jacky.seezone.net/2006/06/08/1657/comment-page-1/#comment-2290</link>
		<dc:creator>Nana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snowdrop :

‧‧‧ However, this should not mean that Sammy/SiuYee’s actions are above contempt. Ordinary people in general, including women’s voluntary organisations, have every right to condemn their show. And it is really disingenious for their supporters to simply say that these are “mobs” stirred up by the Next/Apple/East media. Please don’t insult the 
public’s intelligence when they themselves can’t tell what is right from wrong.

Also, I haven’t seen any fierce critics of Sammy/SiuYee calling for their heads on a platter. All that was demanded from them was a heartfelt apology and explanation to their fans of why what they have done was wrong, and neither of these were exactly forthcoming from them. To stop their show temporarily was seen as enough, I haven’t seen anybody calling for these presenters to be sacked outright or to make them “永不翻生” (in any case sacking them would just have the complete opposite effect of further encouraging their blind fans). So please don’t paint their legitimate critics as braying hounds out to get their blood (and please understand by “legitimate critics” I do not include the likes of the Next/Apple/East media). I actually find them likeable to start with, and I certainly wish this is not the last we’ll see of them. ／／

raise the level of societal consciousness regarding sexual violence then all these hullabaloo in both online and mainstream media is worth it. ／／


EXACTLY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snowdrop :</p>
<p>‧‧‧ However, this should not mean that Sammy/SiuYee’s actions are above contempt. Ordinary people in general, including women’s voluntary organisations, have every right to condemn their show. And it is really disingenious for their supporters to simply say that these are “mobs” stirred up by the Next/Apple/East media. Please don’t insult the<br />
public’s intelligence when they themselves can’t tell what is right from wrong.</p>
<p>Also, I haven’t seen any fierce critics of Sammy/SiuYee calling for their heads on a platter. All that was demanded from them was a heartfelt apology and explanation to their fans of why what they have done was wrong, and neither of these were exactly forthcoming from them. To stop their show temporarily was seen as enough, I haven’t seen anybody calling for these presenters to be sacked outright or to make them “永不翻生” (in any case sacking them would just have the complete opposite effect of further encouraging their blind fans). So please don’t paint their legitimate critics as braying hounds out to get their blood (and please understand by “legitimate critics” I do not include the likes of the Next/Apple/East media). I actually find them likeable to start with, and I certainly wish this is not the last we’ll see of them. ／／</p>
<p>raise the level of societal consciousness regarding sexual violence then all these hullabaloo in both online and mainstream media is worth it. ／／</p>
<p>EXACTLY</p>
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		<title>By: Snowdrops</title>
		<link>http://jacky.seezone.net/2006/06/08/1657/comment-page-1/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>Snowdrops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, just to clarify, I don&#039;t mean 小澤 and Scarlett have been &quot;character-assasinating&quot; legitimate critics of Sammy/SiuYee above, but rather, S/SY&#039;s supporters whose comments I have read online which suggested this. So the &quot;you&quot; in the second last paragraph of the above post refers not to 小澤 and Scarlett but to S/SY&#039;s supporters. 

And apologies Jacky for taking up so much of your blog comment space to debate this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, just to clarify, I don't mean 小澤 and Scarlett have been "character-assasinating" legitimate critics of Sammy/SiuYee above, but rather, S/SY's supporters whose comments I have read online which suggested this. So the "you" in the second last paragraph of the above post refers not to 小澤 and Scarlett but to S/SY's supporters. </p>
<p>And apologies Jacky for taking up so much of your blog comment space to debate this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowdrops</title>
		<link>http://jacky.seezone.net/2006/06/08/1657/comment-page-1/#comment-2287</link>
		<dc:creator>Snowdrops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mad dog, very sorry for having mistaken your gender (how stereotypically-genderised is my thinking in relation to nick names!) Thanks for your message too in drawing the parallel with terrorism, the typical Sammy-SiuYee line of defense is exactly the same kind of thing I see in other debates on terrorism too (e.g. all these Coalition apologists who say that Iraqis should be grateful because at least they are not as bad as Saddam, and all these Israeli-state-apologists who say that their treatment of Palestinians are nowhere near as bad as the former South African apatheid state... but these are all topics for another day...) 

To 小澤  and Scarlett, I agree with you that for Next/Apple/East media to criticise Sammy/SiuYee is hypocrisy of the highest order. They should clean up their own act before they have to right to critique others. However, this should not mean that Sammy/SiuYee&#039;s actions are above contempt. Ordinary people in general, including women&#039;s voluntary organisations, have every right to condemn their show. And it is really disingenious for their supporters to simply say that these are &quot;mobs&quot; stirred up by the Next/Apple/East media. Please don&#039;t insult the public&#039;s intelligence when they themselves can&#039;t tell what is right from wrong. 

Also, I haven&#039;t seen any fierce critics of Sammy/SiuYee calling for their heads on a platter. All that was demanded from them was a heartfelt apology and explanation to their fans of why what they have done was wrong, and neither of these were exactly forthcoming from them. To stop their show temporarily was seen as enough, I haven&#039;t seen anybody calling for these presenters to be sacked outright or to make them &quot;永不翻生&quot; (in any case sacking them would just have the complete opposite effect of further encouraging their blind fans). So please don&#039;t paint their legitimate critics as braying hounds out to get their blood (and please understand by &quot;legitimate critics&quot; I do not include the likes of the Next/Apple/East media). I actually find them likeable to start with, and I certainly wish this is not the last we&#039;ll see of them. But it&#039;s so easy isn&#039;t it to just character assasinate your critics to make them sound more extreme rather than tackle their criticisms head on. I would also say that a lot of people who are saying they will not listen to Sammy/SiuYee&#039;s show anymore are not keen readers of the Next/Apple/East media anyway, and so many of them have already 罷看 such rubbish.  

Ultimately I believe having this debate is a healthy thing, if it helps radio presenters to &quot;think before they speak&quot; and raise the level of societal consciousness regarding sexual violence then all these hullabaloo in both online and mainstream media is worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mad dog, very sorry for having mistaken your gender (how stereotypically-genderised is my thinking in relation to nick names!) Thanks for your message too in drawing the parallel with terrorism, the typical Sammy-SiuYee line of defense is exactly the same kind of thing I see in other debates on terrorism too (e.g. all these Coalition apologists who say that Iraqis should be grateful because at least they are not as bad as Saddam, and all these Israeli-state-apologists who say that their treatment of Palestinians are nowhere near as bad as the former South African apatheid state... but these are all topics for another day...) </p>
<p>To 小澤  and Scarlett, I agree with you that for Next/Apple/East media to criticise Sammy/SiuYee is hypocrisy of the highest order. They should clean up their own act before they have to right to critique others. However, this should not mean that Sammy/SiuYee's actions are above contempt. Ordinary people in general, including women's voluntary organisations, have every right to condemn their show. And it is really disingenious for their supporters to simply say that these are "mobs" stirred up by the Next/Apple/East media. Please don't insult the public's intelligence when they themselves can't tell what is right from wrong. </p>
<p>Also, I haven't seen any fierce critics of Sammy/SiuYee calling for their heads on a platter. All that was demanded from them was a heartfelt apology and explanation to their fans of why what they have done was wrong, and neither of these were exactly forthcoming from them. To stop their show temporarily was seen as enough, I haven't seen anybody calling for these presenters to be sacked outright or to make them "永不翻生" (in any case sacking them would just have the complete opposite effect of further encouraging their blind fans). So please don't paint their legitimate critics as braying hounds out to get their blood (and please understand by "legitimate critics" I do not include the likes of the Next/Apple/East media). I actually find them likeable to start with, and I certainly wish this is not the last we'll see of them. But it's so easy isn't it to just character assasinate your critics to make them sound more extreme rather than tackle their criticisms head on. I would also say that a lot of people who are saying they will not listen to Sammy/SiuYee's show anymore are not keen readers of the Next/Apple/East media anyway, and so many of them have already 罷看 such rubbish.  </p>
<p>Ultimately I believe having this debate is a healthy thing, if it helps radio presenters to "think before they speak" and raise the level of societal consciousness regarding sexual violence then all these hullabaloo in both online and mainstream media is worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarlett</title>
		<link>http://jacky.seezone.net/2006/06/08/1657/comment-page-1/#comment-2286</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 17:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>點解東方日報竟然可以用&quot;誨淫誨盜賤格下流&quot;呢D咁既標題來形容森小他們???真係有口話人冇口話自己!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>點解東方日報竟然可以用"誨淫誨盜賤格下流"呢D咁既標題來形容森小他們???真係有口話人冇口話自己!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mad dog</title>
		<link>http://jacky.seezone.net/2006/06/08/1657/comment-page-1/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>mad dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, snowdrops, i trully agree with you. Osama bin Laden is the most-wanted terrorist on earth doesn&#039;t mean that other terrorists who killed fewer people are innocent. our world and the people have changed a lot and our next generation is getting worse... horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, snowdrops, i trully agree with you. Osama bin Laden is the most-wanted terrorist on earth doesn't mean that other terrorists who killed fewer people are innocent. our world and the people have changed a lot and our next generation is getting worse... horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: mad dog</title>
		<link>http://jacky.seezone.net/2006/06/08/1657/comment-page-1/#comment-2284</link>
		<dc:creator>mad dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey snowdrops, i have to clarify, i am a Female, not a man.  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey snowdrops, i have to clarify, i am a Female, not a man.  <img src='http://jacky.seezone.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: 小澤</title>
		<link>http://jacky.seezone.net/2006/06/08/1657/comment-page-1/#comment-2283</link>
		<dc:creator>小澤</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 07:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>當事人當了多年的主持,應該知道有那些位應該去,有些位應該避, 今次明顯是做錯了,雖然是無心之失但也無得抵賴。

但我有點不明白甚至有點糊塗,我們指責批評希望見到是什麼結果?
是要讓大家也知道「這些事情」不對而不再犯? 還是要把對方趕盡殺絕後便何以無眼屎乾淨盲?

如果是後者的話,那應該連那些生果,方向,星宿報也要一律罷看吧,為什麼那些報紙現在反過來可以當道德警察來? 總不能用兩把尺對待同一種類的事件吧?

我們的主流意見不是「知錯能改,善莫大焉」嗎? 對方道了歉也有相應懲罰便足夠了,還是我們希望對方永不翻生才是主流? 我越來越搞不懂了。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>當事人當了多年的主持,應該知道有那些位應該去,有些位應該避, 今次明顯是做錯了,雖然是無心之失但也無得抵賴。</p>
<p>但我有點不明白甚至有點糊塗,我們指責批評希望見到是什麼結果?<br />
是要讓大家也知道「這些事情」不對而不再犯? 還是要把對方趕盡殺絕後便何以無眼屎乾淨盲?</p>
<p>如果是後者的話,那應該連那些生果,方向,星宿報也要一律罷看吧,為什麼那些報紙現在反過來可以當道德警察來? 總不能用兩把尺對待同一種類的事件吧?</p>
<p>我們的主流意見不是「知錯能改,善莫大焉」嗎? 對方道了歉也有相應懲罰便足夠了,還是我們希望對方永不翻生才是主流? 我越來越搞不懂了。</p>
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